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Speed Sensitive Suspension and the \"SERVICE RIDE C 16 years 9 months ago #464

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Need some expert advice here. Purchased a '94 DeVille (with the SSS system) from the son of the original owner (38k miles). \"SERVICE RIDE CONTROL\" message is on the dash. Took car to the local Cadillac dealer and was told it would be one hour labor to diagnose; figured it was one of the struts and at least one pair of struts would need replacing. After one hour, I was told that none of the struts was receiving a signal and they would need more shop time (1 or 2 more hours) to examine the wiring to determine the cause, as there seemed to be a dead short. They said they would start at the fuses and relays and work from there. I went ahead and approved the additional time. After two more hours, I was told that the wiring was fine and now they were looking at two control modules and the wiring between them (I'll get to another point later, but I am after-the-fact guessing they were referring to the SSS module and the PCM). After another 1.5 hours I was told the car needed a new \"Body Control Module\", which they would have to order. I asked what the bill was so far and was presented with 4.5 hours that was $20 per hour HIGHER than the shop rate I had been quoted when I made the service appointment two weeks earlier. Oops, someone must have given me an incorrect rate...I told them to close out my bill and give me a detailed estimate on their recommended repairs with a list of needed parts, part numbers and prices. Kind of felt like I was financing the education on the Cadillac SSS for his service technician and I still did not have a great deal of confidence in his diagnosis. I was told by the guy in the parts department a price for the \"needed parts\", but \"I didn't need the part numbers because they knew which ones to order and would get them when I made another appointment to have the rest of the work done\".

Long story short, I referred back to the factory shop manual and could find no \"Body Control Module\" for a '94 DeVille with SSS. Called back the service writer at my local Cadillac dealer and, after consultation with the service tech, now decided it was the PCM that my car needed. OK, now that's at least a part this car has!

Fast forward to yesterday. Had a reason to call the owner's son and he said the car was taken to their dealer for diagnosis of the same thing before I bought it. He said his dealer had told him whatever was defective was no longer available from GM and the cure was this bypass harness that GM sells. Called that dealer this morning, but no notation was made on the work order except \"Check and Advise\", but no mention was made as to what the advisement was. This was only about six weeks ago, so I asked to have the tech or writer who handled the car to give me a call back; I'm hoping maybe they remember what they found out when they inspected the car in late October.

Does any of this sound plausible? HELP!!!!!
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Re:Speed Sensitive Suspension and the \"SERVICE RIDE C 16 years 9 months ago #465

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have found a body controll module on my 94 deville 4.9 litre , it sits in the trunk passenger side mounted to the back of the rear seat back , youll have to puull the carpet off that area to get a look at it but it is the farhtest one to the right

i think i have the same exact problem as you , ive never taken mine to the dealer , but have worked just about every weekend with the system and i have narrowed it down to the module also

i would like to know what code it is tho

the dealer was pretty much doing what i would think they would do after seeing the IO39 code (road sensing data loss) as far as i can tell this code means all data that travels from the body module to the instrment cluster module is not being recivived at the instramnet cluster (any \"IO\" prefix has to do with the cluster )

with the ignition on if you could push off and the red \"warmer\" button on the climate controll and write down any codes you have i would appricate it ,(just flip ignition switch off after your done) im currently searching for a junkyard module to plug in , if we have the same code and it works for me you will be the first to know... the main code we are searching for is a IO39 , but if you have anything else that would help too
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Re:Speed Sensitive Suspension and the \"SERVICE RIDE C 16 years 9 months ago #466

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Mine, too, gives the IO39 error code, but the dealership said they checked the ESSC (Electronic Speed-sensing Suspension Control) module (what you refer to as a \"body control module\") and this is not the culprit in the case of my car. Supposedly, info on the vehicle speed, lift/dive, etc. are sent into the PCM (Powertrain Control Module, located under the right side of the dash) where this info is digested and then passed on to the ESSC to signal for suspension control changes. The accelerometer (or lateral motion switch; located under the center of the front seat, at the front of the first body cross member support) is supposed to send direct signal to the ESSC on the lateral g-forces the car is experiencing at any given moment. The dealership is telling me that the PCM is faulty and is not passing on readings to the ESSC, therefore, the ESSC cannot relay the necessary data to the struts. Believe it or not, the PCM lists for less than the ESSC! Of course, there is also the PROM plugged into the PCM, which has been linked to PO39 error code (TCC/VCC engagement problem), but I don't think these two are related.


PCM
GM Part # 88961139

ESSC
GM Part # 22154531

Does any of this make sense??? Drop me an email at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and we can discuss in more detail.

Thanks for the reply!
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